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watching today be good to each watching today be good to each >> i'm john roberts. president biden blasts russian president putin in a powerful speech, but it's an off-the-cuff remark that has captured the world's attention. ♪ ♪ >> president biden: for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power. >> john: the secretary of state saying this is about putin's grip on ukraine, not russia. >> we do not have a strategy of regime change. >> john: now the challenges ahead after a pep talk with u.s. troops and a show of force with nato. the u.s. announcing new sanctions and help for refugees, but ukraine says it needs more military aid. we will talk to the u.s. ambassador to nato, julianne smith, about getting leaders on
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the same page, and concerns about russia's long-term goals. plus, senate republicans position themselves to win back the majority in november with a focud battlegrounds. we will discuss with florida senator rick scott emma who is leading republicans efforts to flip the chamber. while... >> i do think at times the ad administration is running out. >> john: liberal democrats in the house press the president to sidestep senate standoffs and take executive action on everything from student debt to gas prices. we will ask democratic connor's men ro khanna about the push from progressives. then... >> i do. >> john: after a marathon two days of questioning, democrats aim to confirm the president 'supreme court nominee by easter. we will ask our sunday panel how the confirmation hearings have become one of washington's most partisan traditions. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪
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>> john: at a low again from news in washington. the president is back on u.s. soil this morning after a blistering speech in europe where he slammed russian president vladimir putin and gave a stark warning to stay out of nato territory. the president also appeared to call for putin's removal, but the white house walking that back this morning. this comes after days of meetings with nato allies on how to support ukraine as russia continues indiscriminate shelling one month into the invasion buried in a moment we will discuss the president's speech with the u.s. and bassett are to nato, julianne smith. we begin with team coverage, mike tobin live on the ground in lviv ukraine, but first, rich edson lie from the white house with reaction to biden's harsh words. rich. >> a trip to courtney more punishment providing recruitment help ukraine, but the white house is left clarifying
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president biden's major pronouncement. >> president biden: as putin -- it's vladimir putin who's to blame, period. >> in a major speech in poland at the doorstep of russian aggression, president biden verbally tore down by repute and a sailing him for the invasion of ukraine. the president defended and encouraged the world's democracies and warned the russian autocrat against moving on their premier defensive alliance. >> president biden: don't even think about moving on one single inch of nato territory. >> the president 's most powerful and lasting declaration in his address, that putin cannot remain in power, needed a major clarification from an unnamed white house official. "the president of posters point was that putin cannot be allowed to exercise power over his neighbors or the region. he was not discussing putin's power in russia or regime change." that follows confusion over the white house position on a response to potential chemical weapons use or the purpose of sanctions. the speech ended a busy three
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days in europe. during this time the white house announced additional natural gas shipment to europe, ending dependency on russian oil and gas would take years. the ukraine government is pushing for more energy from around the world and more weapons from nato. >> all offers are on the table. if our needs are on the table. we need peace immediately. the answers are up to you. >> ahead of his speech, the president met with european leaders, u.s. troops reinforcing nato's eastern flank, and ukrainian refugees. aliens have dispersed into neighboring countries. at the white house announced the u.s. will accept up to 100,000 refugees and pledged a billion dollars in humanitarian aid. while meeting with refugees, the president also turned his attention to vladimir putin, calling him a butcher. the president warned this battle will not be won in days or months and that we need to steel ourselves for the fight ahead. john. >> john: rich edson at the white house this morning, rich, thank you. let's turn to mike tobin, he is
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live in lviv, ukraine, with the latest on the ground. mike, the city of lviv, which had largely been quiet, was changed yesterday, what happe happened? >> about 4:30 p.m. local time the air raid siren sounded with the wind direction, we didn't hear the air strikes downtown. we started learning about the strikes from our smartphones. shortly after that we could see the big blooms of smoke coming out of that fuel depot that had been hit. there was a subsequent strike in an industrial part of town. the regional governor said five people were injured and the lviv mayor said this was russia saying hello to president biden. as you know, he was nearby in poland. >> john: mike, this all happened right about the same time as russia had said look, we pretty much achieved the goals that we wanted to achieve in the first part of this. now we are going to focus on securing the eastern part of ukraine, the don bass region. it was a little interesting to
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see them fire off missiles at the same time they said that. >> it is interesting. you heard russians say that the focus on the resources would go east, if the air strikes came to the west. listen to russian general. >> the main objective is the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished, which, emphasize once again, makes it possible to focus on the main efforts to achieve the main goal, liberation. >> they said that he's talking about is that region just north and east of mary mariupol, that is the region where russian backed militias have been fighting the ukrainians since 2014. it's also the region that vladimir putin said he wanted to liberate from the nazis. >> john: is there much change with a ground war has been concentrated? >> this egypt mariupol continues and continues at a real savage pace. the people in mariupol, of all the things they have to worry about, that got to worry about
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starvation now because it's been going on for that long. the fighting has really intensified in the east. ukrainians say they have reclaimed that town and that's going to give them access to some key highways and some resupply. as it relates to kyiv, the battle lines haven't really moved that much. if we don't see the russians were treating. rather we see the russians digging into defensive positions. if >> john: mike tobin reporting live from lviv, we will be hearing a lot more from him throughout the day. thank you. joining us from brussels as the u.s. ambassador to nato, julianne smith. welcome to "fox news sunday," appreciate you taking the time today. >> ambassador smith: thank you. >> john: the president yesterday in warsaw gave what by all accounts was a very tough speech, but it was some words at the end of the speech that he appeared to ad lib. that really have been getting worldwide attention. let me just play those for you and get your reaction on the other side. >> president biden: for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power. >> john: so he appeared to, in
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that ad lib. there, off-the-cuff remarks, articulate a policy of regime change toward russia. not only did he say it, but he said it in poland. in your estimation, is that helpful to the cause? >> ambassador smith: well, let me be clear and just state right off the bat that the u.s. does not have a policy of regime change towards russia, but i think what we all agree on is that president putin cannot be empowered to wage war. he has attacked ukraine in a premeditated, unprovoked conflict, and is pursuing this relentless and brutal war in ukraine, which we all want to see come to an end. >> john: i mean, that has been the stated policy that we are not looking for regime change in russia but the gaffe was significant enough that later on in the day in a news conference in jerusalem, the secretary of state felt it necessary to clarify the remarks. listen here. >> president putin cannot be empowered to wage war or engage
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in aggression against ukraine or anyone else. as you know, and as you have heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy of regime change in russia. >> john: we don't have a strategy of regime change in russia. but this would seem plate to write -- play right into putin's hands, he can go to his cronies, goat's oligarchs, go to his defense minister in sase, i told you, they are out to get us here. in the same way that the president seemingly gave vladimir putin a green light to maybe go in and have a small incursion into the eastern part of ukraine, putin will take a look at this and say they are out to get me. >> ambassador smith: look, the president has spent the day standing, talking to ukrainian refugees. he went to the national stadium in warsaw and literally met with hundreds of ukrainian refugees. he listened to their heroic stories about fleeing ukraine in the wake of russia's brutal
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aggression there, and it was a very moving day. we don't want to see putin continuing this war. , in ukraine, and that's why he came to europe, stopped in brussels, went on to poland to work closely with our allies on these unprecedented steps to apply pressure on russia. and assist ukraine in this moment. >> john: in a surprise address over the weekend, zelenskyy again called on nato to provide him with the weapons he believes he needs to win the work, including tanks and again he made an appeigs, but the united states is refusing to give him the migs. there's a whole lot more that nato can do to help ukraine win this conflict, not just hold the line against russia, but the president appears to be timid about triggering vladimir putin into an escalation. is he right to think that, or is there more latitude here to push putin a little harder by maybe
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just giving those migs to ukraine? >> ambassador smith: well, first of all, let me say that the nato alliance and the united states bilaterally is in constant contact with president zelenskyy and members of his cabinet. we are constantly in conversation with ukrainians assessing what their defense needs are. since joe biden, president biden, came into office in january of last year, the united states has provided $2 billion of lethal assistance to ukraine. now, on your question about the migs, we have urged every ally in the alliance to come forward and share their ideas on what more we can do to support ukraine through antiair and antiarmor weapons and other ideas. poland came forward with the idea of offering the soviet era jets. we looked at that, we had some questions about it and at the end of the day, the united states believed that in this case the delivery of those jets was untenable. we had ao ukraine.
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we also are questions about the ukrainian pilots that could potentially be flying those jets, but this is an evolving set of circumstances. we are continually coming together with our allies and looking at what more we can do to get lethal assistance in the hands of the ukrainian military. if >> john: you say that the issue of the migs is mostly logistical, but here in the united states, the administration has said no, it's a question of escalation. and if i'm not mistaken, the original idea of poland giving the migs to ukraine was an american idea. it was only when the polls said look, we will give them to you, then you can give them to ukraine, that it became a problem. >> ambassador smith: my understanding is that the ukrainians actually asked poland. in fact, i believe that the ukrainians are in regular contact, as they are with the united states, with individual nato allies. they have spoken with most of the allies on nato's eastern
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flank even some that are not on nato's eastern flank over towards the west. each ally is doing what it can to provide assistance in this moment and we will continue to work with allies on determining what's best and how we can assist them with, again, their air defense needs. >> john: there was a debate, madame ao do. we were told meant to deter putm ever going into ukraine but on the weekend the president said that no, sanctions were never meant to deter. let's listen to what the president said and listen to what his lieutenant said in the run-up to the invasion. >> president biden: let's get something straight, you remember if you covered me from the very beginning, i did not say that in fact the sanctions would deter him. sanctions never deter. >> the president believe that sanctions are intended to deter. >> the purpose of the sanctions
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has always been, and continues to become a deterrence. >> the purpose of the sanctions in the first instance is to try to deter russia from going to war. >> sanctions are not an end to themselves, they serve a higher purpose, and that purpose is to deter and prevent. >> we do see them as having a deterrent impact. >> john: so madam ambassador, can you clear this up for us? where they meant to deter or not meant to deter? >> ambassador smith: so look, before russia went into ukraine, we took a number of steps to outline the consequences that russia would be facing if they opted for a war inside ukraine. we laid out a sanctions package, we made it clear that we were in daily contact with our european allies to put together a package. now that russia has gone into ukraine, we have moved forward with those costs. they've been unprecedented, and if you look at any indicator for the russian economy, whether you're looking aedit rating, ore looking at interest rates my those sancti now on the russian
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economy. >> john: but again, where they meant to deter or not? >> ambassador smith: well, look, before the war, obviously we were laying out the consequences in pretty explicit detail with the hope that president putin would take an alternative course. we were trying in that moment to sharpen his choice. we were also, at that moment, moving u.s. force posture into eastern europe. also to help sharpen his choice. unfortunately, he opted for war and now he's feeling the consequences. >> john: one last quick question if i could and the remaining time we have left he here. russia appears to be recalibrating, saying it's going to focus on consolidating its defense in the don bass region. is there an opportunity here to try to save the rest of ukraine? >> ambassador smith: let's be clear, this war is not going as planned. the implication is that the russians wanted to go in and
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take kyiv in just a few days. it's a month now into this war, they are in a defensive crouch outside of kyiv, they have announced that they are changing their tactics, will have to monitor the situation on the ground and see if that's actually the case. but i think they are on their back foot here and we've been so impressed with the fighting capability and spirit of the you ukraine forces and we have confidence that they are going to prevail. >> john: the ukrainian forces certainly are the one remarkable thing about all of this. julianne smith, the ambassador to nato for the united states, thanks so much for your time today, appreciate it. >> ambassador smith: thank thank you. >> john: up next, senator rick scott on the president's speech on the challenges ahead in ukraine. ♪ ♪ ♪ helping them discover their dreams is one of the best parts of being a parent.
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♪ ♪ >> john: as the president's poll numbers sag in key races, republicans i a pathway to flip the house and regain control of
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the senate. joining us now from florida is the chair of the national republican senatorial committee, senator rick scott. welcome back to "fox news sunday." it's good to see you. >> senator scott: it's nice seeing you, john, i think we are going to have a great year. we've got great candidates running around the country, which got some primaries, the democrats have primaries, in their primaries that think bernie sanders type candidates are going to come out. the biden agenda is very unpopular so as long as we raise our money, as long as we, you know, focus on big, bold ideas, i think we're going to have a great november. >> john: you do have a couple of issues, which i will get to win a second, but first of all, i just want to pivot back to ukraine because the president made a lot of news yesterday at the tail end of that speech that he gave in warsaw when he seemed to go off script for a second and ad lib. this, listen here. >> president biden: for god sake, this man cannot remain in power. >> john: that seemed to be a dramatic departure from the established american policy, where he appeared to be calling
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for regime change in russia, take out latimer put in his secretary of state antony blinken has to promptly block it back, saying no, did he play, do you think, right into putin's hands, who has been really trying to make this something between russia and the united states, not just europe? >> senator scott: absolutely. i mean, what biden needs to stop doing it stop talking and start acting. stop telling putin what is going to do, start giving him every resource you can to the ukrainian people, rally nato, do the same, i don't get why the migs aren't there, we need more antiaircraft, antiship, antitank equipment there, zelenskyy is telling us what he needs and he's telling us he doesn't have enough. thank god zelenskyy and ukrainian people are willing to defend freedom, because if they don't, then, you know, where's putin going to stop? so biden has got to start acting in getting these things done and
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start speaking -- stop misspeaking. >> john: we do have an inkling of an idea of where russia might stop when they articulated a new policy where they said we achieved our goals in the initial phase of this, now we're going to concentrate on consolidating defense in the donbas region. that would seem to be an indication that maybe they are giving up on the idea of trying to take over all of ukraine. it is now the time to give ukraine the weapons it needs to win? because we've never heard the president say we are going to help ukraine win. >> senator scott: it's hard to believe. absolutely. we have got to help ukraine win. we got to push putin back into russia and then let the will of the russian people decide what happens to putin. i believe you have to go to prison for war crimes, but we have got to do everything. don't act -- don't play too tight, you play to win. you give them every resource you can and you do it every second. if you thinking every second, what else can we do to put putin
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back on his heels and have him take his troops back into russia. if that's what we should be doing every second, we've got to win this. >> john: you and i have talked about this before on our program, and that is that the white house maybe never thought we were going to be in this position, you know, three, four days, maybe a week, putin would have taken over ukraine, installed a puppet government and we be dealing with that. i don't thin back with the heroc courage that they have. you have been trying to do what you can to try to bring russia to its knees. you have to stop putin act, which would put russian oil companies on the so-called entities list. it would put congress, and not the president, in charge of whether or not united states does business with russian oil companies. do you not trust the president to do it? >> senator scott: well, he's been pretty weak. i mean, the should never have happen. if biden would have done everything early, if you would
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sit through all the resources, make sure that zelenskyy had everything he needed, had all the antitank, antiaircraft, antiship equipment, that he needed, you know, hopefully, you know, putin wouldn't have invaded. that would have been -- he think of at home and would have been saved in ukraine. you look at those pictures of children dying just because putin is such a fog, a murderous thug. >> john: let's switch to politics now, because there's a lot that with got to look forward to between now and november 8th. you recently put out an 11-point plan to rescue america, two of the big points are "all americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount." currently over half of americans play no impact to tax. it also says all federal legislation sunsets in five years. if a law is worth keeping, congress can pass it again. so that would raise taxes on half of americans and potentially sunset programs like
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medicare, medicaid, and social security. why would you propose something like that in an election year? >> senator scott: short. that's of course the democrat talking points. >> john: no, it's in the plan! it's in the plan! >> senator scott: but here's this thing about reality for a second. >> john: senator, it's not democratic to talking point, it's in the plan. >> senator scott: also in the plan it says we ought to every year talk about exactly how we are going to fix medicare and social security. here's what's happening. no one that i know of wants to sunset medicare or social security, what we're doing is we don't even talk about it. medicare goes bankrupt in four years, social security goes bankrupt in 12 years. i think we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs. every program that we care about we ought to stop and take the time to preserve those programs. i just bought the postal bill because it put more responsibility on medicare, and
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took it off the postal service and put medicare in a worse position. now, let's talk about taxes for a second. i'll put my record up against anybody on tax cuts. i cut taxes and fees 100 times as governor, but here's what's unfair. we have people that don't -- that couldn't go to work and have figured out how to have government pay their way. that's not right. they are to have some skin and again. i don't care if it's a dollar. we ought to all be in this together. i'm going to focus, continue to focus on reducing taxes. that's what i do my whole life, and 11 step plan, go through it, everybody's not going to agree with everything, 120 points, let's be bold, go to rescue, give me your ideas or you can text america -- give me your ideas. i want to change this country. the woke left controls everything. we've got to win and we've got to change the country. >> john: as you said, not every one agrees with it at one of the people it doesn't agree
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with it is mitch mcconnell. here's what he said. >> let me tell you what would not be a part of our agenda. if we will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the american people and sunsets social security and medicare within five years. that will not be part of the republican senate majority agenda. >> john: a few days after he said that he penned a "wall street journal" op-ed about your plan told ym defying beltway cowardice. you calling mitch mcconnell coward? >> senator scott: what i'm saying is -- i've been in d.c. for three years. i want to get something done. i want to d.c. to change this country. look at where we are not. the woke left controls, you know, the executive branch, they control a lot of our government, they control academia, they control hollywood. look at -- we have an open border, we've decided we're not going to be energy independent. we've got to change this.
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you don't change it without having a plan. i'm a business guy. when i was in business, i wrote a plan, i surround myself with people who implement of the plan. when i went from governor i had a plan. we've got to have a plan for what we are going to do when we win. we are going to win. we have great people, but let's have a plan. that's why it said go to rest -- give me your ideas. if these ideas of mines on joe american people about what the republicans can do. i want to move onto something us, that's ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. she sent texts and emails to mark meadows, former chief of staff, after the election, as well as some numbers of congress, urging them to do whatever they could to support president trump's bid to overturn the 2020 election. she is a conservative activist, she is entitled to her own opinion which is also the wife of a supreme court justice.
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there are calls for clarence thomas to recuse himself from any future cases involving january 6th. what do you say? >> senator scott: well, first off, i admire and respect clarence thomas. i think he's been a great supreme court justice. in clarence thomas, in my opinion, will always do the right thing, so i've not seen in my -- i've watched clarence thomas for years and i've always seen him do the right thing. >> john: right. what's interesting is that supreme court justices are not bound by the same code of ethics that other federal judges are. chris murphy, your fellow senator, introduced legislation to change that last summer. would you support he change? >> senator scott: i haven't seen the legislation, but communal, my experience with the supreme court if they are trying their best to interpret the laws and do the best they can. i don't agree with every thing they do, none of us would, but i think they're trying to do the best they can buried
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>> john: senator rick scott of the great state of florida. thank you, always a pleasure. >> senator scott: thank you, see you. >> john: coming up next, congressman ro khanna on the midterm warnings from progressives to the white house. ♪ ♪ when you need some of the brightest minds in medicine, this is the only healthcare system in the country with five nationally ranked hospitals, including two world-renowned academic medical centers, in boston, where biotech innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school, and where the physicians doing the world-changing research are the ones providing care. there's only one mass general brigham. one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric.
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close enough! ♪ ♪ >> john: progressive democrats are warning the white house that the party will see pain at the polls if they do not deliver on key policies, and are encouraging the president to make a run around the senate. joining us now is democratic congressman rochon of california, author of the new book. congressman, welcome back to fox news. >> congressman khanna: thank you for having me. >> john: to have you here. i don't need to play the song but again because we've already herded a couple of times but let me get you to weigh in on what the president said, ad-libbed at the end of that speech yesterday, because a lot of people did a double take. and it's headlines everywhere around the world right now that the president just called for regime change in russia. >> congressman khanna: let me be clear, the united states policy is not regime change, it's a negotiated end to this war. look, when putin in mariupol is bombing theaters weathers 300
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kids and a sign saying children and he's bombing that, any human being would express frustration in the president was speaking from it's hard -- his heart but it's not the u.s. policy. >> john: he has a habit to sometimes say the quiet part out loud. when he said well, if it's a minor encourage, that's one thing, i'm sure that was a conversation that occurred in the situation room that he just blurted out loud. and there are a lot of people in this world who would probably like to see putin go because he's been bad news for an awful long time. but when you're the president of the united states, you can't just say stuff like that. >> congressman khanna: the president i think is a straight shooter, he's deeply apathetic. i'm sure he is frustrated with the scenes of children, women, but i think the white house has been clear, they have been disciplined and dave said we need a negotiated end to this war, that has to be with putin as a settlement. it's not the policy of regime change. this also part of the democratic congress for regime change. we've been the party against regime change for the past 20 years.
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>> john: you think that putin is going to take us and try to use this to his advantage? >> congressman khanna: putin takes anything and tries to use it to his advantage but let's see what we need to do. we need to make it is difficult for him -- look at what this president has done because i heard senator scott earlier. with provided antitank's, we provided the antiaircraft, we provided over $2 billion of assistance. we have the most punishing sanctions. this present has rallied maeda. look, it's easy to monday morning gorda back and say you could have done one more thing, but this president by and large has been tough and we are going to get putin and negotiate to bring a cease-fire to the war. >> john: if it were up to you would you give them the migs? because the lenski ask for them again. >> congressman khanna: i would not have u.s. bases -- let's be clear on what that means. it means u.s. service members are going to go up in those guys in ukraine and be shot at by russian planes. i know it's easy to come on fox news or cnn and talk tough, but are you flying this planes? are you going to answer to those families if american service members get killed? i want to put american service members at risk. if poland wants to supply those
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planes, find, and i want those planes to get to zelenskyy, but not at the cost of american lives. >> john: let me ask you about the iran nuclear deal because we've been hearing for weeks now that it's closed. but one of the potential provisions of this would be to allow russia to buy excess enriched uranium from iran and i'm wondering, what sense does it make to allow a country that at every turn has threatened to use nuclear weapons for the first time since the second world war, to give them access enriched uranium so that they can just hold that as a cudgel over the world? >> congressman khanna: that's not be part of the deal. the deal hasn't been finalized, i would not support having a russian exception given what's going on right now, to allow them to get iranian oil. i think we ought to have the world boycotting russian oil. i've been clear actually on india, and i think india ought to be condemning putin in india ought not to be getting oil from russia or china. we ought to rally the world to isolate putin. >> john: india is also been weapons from russia and they're concerned about the flow of weapons, which is why modi seems to be trying to maintain close
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ties with putin. should the u.s. get in the way of that and say look, break your ties with russia, we need military equip meant, we will give to you or is that going to create a big rift with pakistan? >> congressman khanna: up in the vice chair of the u.s. india caucus in an first should condemn in the u.n. putin for the human rights violations. second, they need to realize they have to pick sides. we, the united states, was with them when china invaded india. putin wasn't there and it's time for them to buy or weapons from the united states, not russia. we have to look at how we can facilitate that and make that easier. we need india as an ally ultimately to contain china. >> john: let me swing to politics, because inflation is raging, the fed is raising interest rates in california, the average price of gasoline is $6 a gallon get the president keeps talking but with got to move towards the green agenda, we got to move towards the green agenda. a green agenda is fine if you do it over the course of decades. even if you give everybody in the country an electric vehicle for free and you converted every home to electric heat, the grid wouldn't stand it, so you've got to update the grid as well.
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is it time to put a pause on the push towards a green agenda and say look, for the meantime, with got to pump more oil, we got to help out our european allies, got to get prices down? >> congressman khanna: we can do both. short time increased production. here's one way to do it. the federal government can buy back what we are using in the strategic petroleum reserve and provide a price. that's a bipartisan proposal, let's pass it. long-term, let's have a moon shot on clean technology. if john f. kennedy said that we need to go to the moon to defeat the soviet's, you want to defeat the petro states of russia, iran, venezuela, saudi arabia, let's have a moonshine on renewable energy, so let's have the short-term increase in production, longtime moon shot on renewable energy. >> john: in terms of the november election, alexandria across you watch as it said in recent days she think the democratic party is in trouble and because of the president. listen to what she said. >> this is really about the collapse in support among young people, among the democratic base, feeling like they are not -- that they worked overtime
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to get this president elected and they aren't necessarily being seen. >> john: issue right? >> congressman khanna: the president has done an extra ordinary job. we passed the american rescue plan, past infrastructure. here's what we ought to highlight. $20 billion intel is investing in ohio. you talk about the revitalization of the midwest, we are delivering. of course there are other things we ought to do but this president has met the moment in very difficult circumstances. >> john: americans might disagree with you. his approval ratings only 40% in the latest poll. before we go, don't ask a question about your book because the political discourse in this country has sunk to new lows. everybody is yelling at each other and much of the reason why they're yelling at each other's because of social media. his social media ruining this country? >> congressman khanna: no, but social media needs to do better, several things limited better, they ought not to have incitement of violence, ought not to discriminate against viewpoints, allow for free speech and they ought to make sure that teenagers aren't getting manipulated in ways that are causing depression and
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suicide. so absolutely no need to be more smarter regulations on social meter. >> john: progress and, it's a pleasure to have you in, thanks so much for making time today. >> congressman khanna: thank you for giving me the chance. >> john: hope to see you soon on our program "american reports." >> congressman khanna: i love you buried >> john: ketanji brown jackson is one step closer to becoming the first black woman on the supreme court. we will bring our sunday panel to discuss our path of the nomination and the outsized role that the current president has played in the process over the past four decades. >> president biden: the confirmation process has been infected by the general meanness and nastiness that pervades our political process today. ♪ ♪ hey, i get it, commitment can be scary. but not when you're saving up to 15% with subscribe and save at amazon. you get free repeat delivery on your favorite items
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♪ ♪ >> john: long before he was president, joe biden spent 17 years as chair of the senate judiciary committee. that experience came full circle
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this week as his nominee to replace justice stephen breyer, whose confirmation hearing he led back in 1994, faced her own. congressional correspondent chad pergram reports. >> good morning, judge jackson. >> good morning. >> senators asked about gender. >> can you provide a definition for the word "woman"? >> i can't. i'm not a biologist. >> they asked about abortion. >> can an unborn child feel pain at 20 weeks? >> senator, i don't know. >> you can bang as loud as you want. >> jackson found herself in the middle of a verbal senate cross fire. >> there's no point in responding, he's going to interrupt. >> thank you. >> judiciary committee dick durbin is responsible for piloting her nomination through the senate shoals. but the man who picked jackson enjoys an unprecedented vantage point about the course his nominee faces. >> the truth on the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so hope you got? >> i do, mr. chairman.
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>> president biden presided over hearings for sick supreme court nominees i in the apostate the 80s set up foster 90s when he served in the senate. two of those hearings are legendary. the president tangled with president reagan's nominee robert bork in 1987. >> the fact that it wasn't prosecuted that mean it wasn't a crime. >> i have more to say about that, whether it was a crime or not. >> became one of only 11 supreme court nominees defeated on the senate floor. >> you know and i know what we're talking about. >> in 1991, president biden presided over what many regard as the most noxious supreme court hearing in history. >> this is a circus. it's a national disgrace. >> law professor anita hill charged that justice clarence thomas harassed her, the hearings devolved into a vulgar spectacle. >> what was the most embarrassing? of all the incidences that you have alleged? >> this discussion of, of
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pornography involving these women. >> today democrats criticize g.o.p. senators who may want to run for president for their aggressive tactics with jackson. but it was the notoriety of supreme court confirmation hearings which propelled a senator from delaware into the american political mainstream. >> john: chad joins us now as part of our sunday group among several public and strategist karl rove, former state to part with spokeswoman marie harf, and fox news correspondent gillian turner. welcome, all. karl, let me start with you because you saw through a couple of these with justice roberts and justice alito. mitt romney has said that he believes that some of the attacks against ketanji brown jackson were "off course." what do you say? >> i think that's probably right. i am sort of with andrew mccarthy and his things in her decisions in these cases, but look, this is a mild hearing compared to what we've seen. she's going to be confirmed. i thought one of the interesting things was the beginning of this process she said "i do not have
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a judicial philosophy" and honestly someone in this process said you better have a better answer than that, so she said my philosophy is a neutral, i listen to everybody, and i make a decision. that's a process, not a philosophy. but she could have taken care of a lot of this if she had had better answers to some of the civil questions. what is a woman? a woman is somebody with 2x chromosomes, and that would have ended the discussion. and instead we had a little bit of back-and-forth on it. but she's going to be confirmed, she's going to be reliably liberal, she is replacing a reliably liberal judge and course the question is is she going to be the occasional person like breyer was who breaks from orthodox? >> john: marie and i had that conversation earlier. >> thankfully, karl has told us this morning, i'm so glad about that. >> john: are there legitimate concerns that she found some of her positions on sentencing, her connections to abbasid groups on the left? >> first we should note that she is the most popular supreme court nominee since john roberts
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in 2005, especially women of color but sort of across-the-board note that this is a pretty historic pick. i think she answered those questions, many of which, john, were really designed to be played in g.o.p. political ads in the midterms and in the next presidential cycle. they weren't really i think designed to get real information from her about her judicial philosophy. no one thinks judge jackson defends child pornography, for example. i think we heard a lot of information about her about her rulings in past cases, how she approaches her judicial processes, as karl mentioned, and philosophy, and she will be confirmed, which will be a historic feat for the supreme court. >> john: we asked voters for their feelings about it and here are some interesting findings. when asked if they would vote to confirm, 56% of people said they would, 50% of people said that they would confirm justice amy coney barrett, judge kavanaugh, 40%, march of 2017, judge gore
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six, 45%. so, gillian, she's got a higher rating than any of the previous three judges. >> and i think with good reason, she performed very well. i think to be fair to the other side here, a lot of g.o.p. senators got a lot of flak for focusing on gender, the question about what is a woman, race, can babies be racist, but these are core issues animating their voters. these are issues that are very important and poll after poll to the people that these senators are elected to represent. so i think some of the criticism from the left that is simply shutting these issues inside a box calling -- you know, sort of trying to define them as a throw away cultural issue are way off base, and i'm surprised to see actually the degree to which these -- you know, senator cruz, rubio, been criticized for going down those paths. of course they were. that's why she was welr those q. >> john:as graham, murkowski, ad
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collins, i don't think she's going to get graham this time. >> no, he's been pretty harsh about that, he's raised some issues about there. >> how will a vote look? >> probably close to 50/50 and again i say it's about the math, john thune, republican whip, so there's probably no more than three republican senators who might vote for her, but again, you need to have all 50 democratic senators there and we are living in the time of covid. they are trying to do this confirmation by about the seventh, eighth, or ninth of april, and guess what, if you have senators who are out on the democratic side and it is a partisan vote, bob casey tested positive last week, you had been read lujan, who was out for six weeks after suffering a stroke. you know, that could delay this, it will be about the math buried >> john: sticking with the supreme court but from a different angle, and this is the wife of the supreme court justice clarence thomas sending texts and emails to mark meadows, other members of congress in the wake of the 2020 election, urging them to do whatever they could to try to maintain president trump as
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president. she wrote in one of them, and i think this was to mark meadows, help this great president stand firm, mark, you are the leader with him who is standing for america's constitutional governance. at the precipice, the majority knows biden, the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. she's a conservative activist. she can sail these things, which is also the wife of a supreme court justice, and what are the applications of that? >> i'm not a lawyer nor did i stay at a holiday inn express left nine but it does strike me that this great problems for justice thomas in cases involving january 6th and the question of the 2020 election, and he's going to have to face some serious questions about whether or not he refuses. full disclosure, i was her minded of this by a friend, about a dozen years ago jenny thomas had a meeting of her secret group and announced that they were going to have a crusade to erase me from politics. i don't know how that's going after about 12 years. >> still here! >> john: most of you is here, although we can only see you [indiscernible].
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>> exactly. these were intemperate emails and they are going to create a problem if these kinds of cases come before the court. >> john: so what you think, does he need to recuse himself from any january 6 cases? >> absolutely. we are not response before the actions of our spouses, they can have opinions but this is cross the line, many conservative legal advocates and analysts and lawyers -- karl and i are not a attorneys -- perhaps at the same thing, this is cross the line and he should recuse himself. i don't think he will but he should buried >> john: as we pointed out early in the program, supreme court justices are not bound by the same code of ethics as other federal judges are. there is a move afoot, senator chris murphy has introduced legislation to change that. does that need to change? >> i think here there's two issues. we've got to keep them separate. so there's jenny thomas and then there is her husband. and he will recuse or not recuse based on the legal counsel he gets. when it comes to her, you might not like what she said, you might disagree with it, you might think it was appropriate or inappropriate, but it bears
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mentioning that she is a private citizen in all of this. i also, john -- a lot of people get mad at me but there is an element of sexism embedded in his criticism. imagine if the gender roles were reversed here. would we be blaming husband for sort of masterminding his wife here? >> john: if it was amy coney barrett, they just might. >> or the clintons, for example. think of exam puzzle that too. >> there's been no intimation that, you know, that these were directed from clarence thomas. she came up with these independently and sent them to -- so she is responsive over the content. the question is, how does this bear in the public perception of the court if a case comes forward in which these issues -- >> john: is the legislation going to go anywhere? it's been languishing for nine months now. >> so far this might give it kind of despair than it needs. nancy pelosi has talked about this saying maybe we need something universal for all thee meets. it's going te department of jus,
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criminal contempt referrals dealing with dan's giving out and also with peter navarro here. i have seen the agenda for tomorrow night's meeting. this was friday. this is not on the agenda. whether or not this comes up and there's going to be a lot of pressure on numbers of that committee to go after clarence thomas and how they handle this. there was one message i was shown the other day that said they were going to try to handle this with kid gloves. we will see if that sticks with the democrat party. >> john: we will see. they haven't subpoenaed yet, but there are certainly talk of it. one question i want to ask marie before we go, if you are at the state farm and in the president ad-lib we are going to have regime change in russia, would you have done? >> he didn't say exactly that. >> john: he has much said that. >> he told the truth, putin is a butcher and he doesn't get to be the leader of russia who invades other countries. i have a feeling that are probably a little nervous about it this morning, but i would -- at the state farm and i would rather have a president who calls out putin, who takes him on, who is very aggressive and not someone who count house to him and is the opposite.
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so look, you heard -- you had ambassador smith on this morning answering for it. i'm actually glad you called out putin. >> john: ten seconds. >> the white house had to take it back on the secretary of state took a bat, it mix the present look like is out of touch and not under control. and that's bad. >> john: firma national security counsel employee? >> he also told american troops the day before that they were going to be sent to ukraine and then a few hours later told the president that the u.s. would accept an additional hundred thousand ukrainian refugees, both of which were false. to me, those are bigger problems. >> john: he also said he would respond to a chemical weapons attack and kind. no. thank you, panel, we will see you again next sunday. up next, final word on the week ahead and how you can help the people of ukraine. ♪ ♪ are you taking a statin drug to reduce cholesterol?
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